AGAIN. I liked it better when players took steroids bigger,stronger,faster whats wasnt to like ? But for every Mike Vick their are even more JaMarcus Russells, Vince Youngs, and Terrelle Pryors. The more disturbing reality is that Jerry Richardson likely pushed for Newton based on his responses to this question, rather than picking the guy who has the best chance to succeed. I disagree with the assertion. . If Cam is a decent guy who wants to be a franchise QB hed probably just not get tatoos and piercings anyways. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. Absolutely, Ill expect a dress code. Its a business people. After all, this is a business, would you go to McDonalds if Ronald had 15 piercings all around his mouth and nose? I suppose the argument here though is he isolated Cam when others on the Panthers have tatts. I just want to play football.. The reason he does not wear any tattoos is that his father has not allowed him to wear. Company policy should apply here as well, in my opinion. No visible tattoos and no piercings has been a policy at every job Ive ever had. So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. Cam didnt have to sign the contract, and Richardson can run his own business. Just as long as it isnt in the form of a threat or ultimatum. In any job, you have to understand and be prepared to deal with the bosss personality quirks and pet peeves. Here's a look at the 25 worst tattoos, on current players, in the NFL, NBA and MLB. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. What makes you part of the team is not the draft but the contract that is signed, which most NFL contract do have a morality/ dress code clause look at Plexico Buress and others who violate their teams contracts by doing stupid things. LaMarcus Aldridge has more than one tattoo 1. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Chest Football Tattoos 6. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. However, what Cam does with his body outside the realm of being in shape, keeping himself healthy and making sure he is prepared to lead the team effectively, is none of the owners business. If you work ANYPLACEyou have to follow rules. I think Cam wants to be the next commercial superstar. On the other hand, the fact that THIS was the first thing the owner asked his new player about may show why this franchise has gone downhill so quickly. I find Cams clean cut look refreshing in the world of sports these days; much like Dwight Howard. Richardson owns the team so he can ask whatever he wants. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black. Turning this into a race issue is completely absurd. Richardson, while appearing to be draconian, is essentially correct. Claiming that our jobs mean nothing & that monkeys could do it. You know NOTHING about any of us.some are firefighters who run into a burning building to save lives & property. At least Cam knows how he can get out of Carolina if he wants. - When bosses complain about tattoos and such it is because they feel the tattoos are embarassing and they dont want to lose business. He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. These players represent their respective teams. He should just play Madden. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. No matter how famous you are, somethings are prohibited in the Bale household and that includes tattoos. I think theyre stupid looking, but thats just me. Is a tattoo unprofessional? Aug 24, 2011 9:30 AM No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. Hair style, personal choices, selection of spouse, where to eat, (god forbid he is seen eating at IHOP instead of Dennys) what to wear, where to go, etc, etc, ad nasuem. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. Full disclosure Im a 25 yo white male with a lot of tattoos. And thats why theyre the Panthers. No. Facial feature distorting PEDs are allowed though. Jerry is old school. Those who choose not to abide by the new regulations will be subject to fines and other disciplinary action including the possibility of suspension. He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. That may hold true for fans. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. I always laugh at people who think that their boss cant dictate how they dress, look, etc. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. You CAN tackle by the hair. I dont want to see a league where guys that have tattoos are only allowed to be on certain teams because the owners deemed tattoos to be bad for business. The only issue is: a) Whether the team is willing to enforce the code to everyone fairly. Ex Barcelona Pep Guardiola boss reflected on why Andreas Iniesta does not wear any tattoo, Iniesta doesnt die his hair, he does not wear earrings and he hasnt got any tattoos. Richardson has every right to tell Newton not to get Tattoos or piercings. Its ok to have dress codes and other policies for an organization, but young players have tattoos and piercings. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. Super Bowl bound Beckham is said to have as many as 86 pieces of art on his body with all different meanings. Wearing tattoos is prohibited in his religion so he is not allowed to wear any. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him?. If this is Richardsons policy, why isnt the whole team held to this standard? Newton is entitled to pay attention, or to ignore him, and the CBA doesnt give Richardson any freedom to fine him. This is going to sound stereotypical but I would expect to see the tattoos in the auto repair shop, county fair, machine shop, steel mill while not seeing them in the operating room, court room, bank, schools and restaurants. Unless the contract says so, Richardson doesnt have any business telling anyone how they can look. -. For someone who nearly died a few years ago and had to undergo a quadruple bypass, he has an odd way of showing an appreciation for life. point being, he thought he could control what that person does on his/her time after work. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis Hell, even the military is getting picking about where they want their Marines, soldiers, airmen or sailors to get tats. Joel Embiid. There are huge differences, to be sure, but the same laws apply. Iniesta played for Barcelona for 22 years. This while working in Chicago. He is the prototypical new wave QB, in my opinion. Cam: WTF!!!!! I dont have any tats Im not against it I just havent found something to put on my body forever. If not, than hes way out of line. I dont care what why he tries to spin it, those comments were clearly racist.. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. catman72 says: August 24, 2011 at 7:59 am Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. . Pogba is the only man utd players without tattoos in our list. If Cam newton goes out and does get them, and his contract gets termed, welcome to the real world. If you show up for an interview looking like a hood you might not get hired. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. What flies in NY or even the ATL may not work in the Charlotte market. As a citizen in the corporate world, if I wear tattoos, I can rest assured there are jobs I will never be allowed to fill especially if I face the public in any capacity. It cant be a case-by-case issue (even though that seems to be the leagues M.O.). who careshe can run his business anyway he wantsthere are plenty of workplaces that dont allow tattoos or piercings. im not sure why the first reaction to all these stories where the league seeks to impose some sort of standard on its players has to be negative. This is absurd! BUT I think im reading into Richardsons intentions the face of the franchise will make both of them money if he is clean of those markings. This is the NFL. Got it. you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. The difference is you can also go to another restaurant that allows tats and piercings. Unfortunately for Jackson, his tattoo choice I have several tats that are in memory of loved ones who have diedas well as several others that have special meaning. Seriously? He is one of the few footballers without tattoos. It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. I dont. Call it what you want. While I disagree with Richardson on many many things. Heck no. I agree that this is both troubling and disturbing to say the least However, I have noticed that this is yet another example of the new corporate mentality that is being allowed to take over this country. this, however, is taking it a step further by dictating how cam can look when hes not at work. To: BIGTROUBLEhow dare you judge people here in such a manner? David Luiz is a devout Catholic like most South Americans and wearing tattoos is prohibited. A bigger issue (in my mind) is that an owner shouldnt be able to selectively enforce any policy on any one employee. The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. Although I do understand his rationale. Jason Thompson 9. The Hip Hop culture cost the NBA a lot of money. I said, Do you have any tattoos? It is an employee relationship he seeks to re-establish, and the employees should look presentable to the public. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. They wanted that more than they wanted to stand on principle, piss off Richardson, and take the risk of dropping in the draft. Most of them expressed their support for Brady Quinn over Tebow, but not Josh Lucero. The society is beginning to infiltrate the entertainment that is conducive to a family visit to the stadium. Truth is though, Richardson is doing Newton a favor. Richardson doesnt care if Cam has a white girl, just not his grand daughter, ha ha. Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. But for every Mike Vick their are even more JaMarcus Russells, Vince Youngs, and Terrelle Pryors. But he would be smart to play along. But I do not like that this subconcious thought of Cam doing these things even seeped into Richardsons brain. Arent there baseball teams that dictate whether a player can grow a beard? CAVEAT: Richardson is 78 and will not be around to head the team through Cams tenure. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. owners of sports teams seek out particular players because of their talent and therefore those players have the power to say whether or not they will adhere to any dress code that is set out. Next in the list is the Egyptian King known as Mo Salah. Michael Finley 3. At least u admitted that ur white cause sadly, it seems catagorizing blacks is what many of u seem to enjoy doing without even thinking I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. And the CBA limits the teams rules in this regard to reasonable rules about appearance. 1.8k Views. If my QB is spending any time under the needle for a superficial piece of body art instead of studying film or learning every positions responisibility on every single play than he is mismanaging his responsibilities as a professional and I wouldnt trust him as the leader of my franchise. While Im sure Richardson is an old-school guy who has low regard for any manner of body ornamentation, this isnt so much about Jerry imposing his own personal values on a player; its a matter of maintaining and maximizing Cams image and marketability, particularly as it relates to the corporate sector. Patriots kicker says he will remove tattoo associated with far-right militia group. Im perfectly OK with JR telling him how he should represent JRs franchise. If I want piercings or tats, I can go do something else. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. Chris Paul 2. Its his show. Most fans will still come, even if they think the player is not a role model. Sure, they are drafted by a team and therefore obligated to play for them or else harm their chances of playing anywhere at all, but they are not shackled to the deck and forced to scrub the floors. While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. It happens in many different workplaces. And I it was a strong request, not a demand. if the owner is paying the face of a franchise millions and he does not want his franchise player haveing tatoos or pierceing that is cool to me.i worked as a waiter and i had to take my pierceings out and cover my tatoos when i was at work,because i was a represenitive of the restarunt.so if the owner of a million dollar company does not want you to have tats or pierceing than you should not have them. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? So without further ado, its time to introduce the could-have-been-good, the bad and the ugly tattoos across the NFL. Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. Chris Paul. He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. And as for the senile comments, hes made more money than the Beatles selling burgers and biscuits. The employer has a right to spend their money on a person who looks presentable. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. Brazilian international David Luiz also said no to having tattoos on his body. It is not unreasonable that owners want them to be non controvertial and risk alienating their fan base. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. Youre right. I absolutely HATE looking at those players with tattoos up and down their arms, gold teeth, big diamonds in both of their ear lobes and hair down to their a$$. Last I checked, if the OWNER wants one of his EMPLOYEES to exhude a certain image, then the EMPLOYEE had better comply. But anyway, he is a classy player but we wouldnt be surprised to see him in a tattoo shop. I have no visible tats and no piercingsbecause its BAD FOR BUSINESS!!! This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. Just ask your grandparents. Who are their critics to say otherwise, nobody? What this article reveals to me is that at some point in Richardsons thought process, it occurred to him that a BLACK QB will be leading his team and he wants to make sure that that potential team leader kept his appearance a certain way. I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player(s) to have no tattoos. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. If Jerry wants the face of the Panthers to appear clean-cut, thats his right. With regards to the NFL, people would watch it still if the players wore snuggies instead of uniforms. As one of the fastest players in the NFL, Mike Wallace puts fear in opposing secondaries. WebMiami Sports. Its a legitimate choice. If you explain the business reasons , most would go along. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. The recent fight and shooting at the Raider-Niner game last weekend was a huge red flag. The NBA says the players must wear normal clothes before and after games. U mean some of the already inked up, drug smoking, and unkept folks who watch football. Hes an extremely handsome man, and with a little success on the field, can parlay that into a lucrative marketing deal. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. Other dumb black QBs? If Newton doesnt like it, get them and let Richardson trade him for it. I made that point in another post. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. Im not arguing the merit of the request with this post, but I do think youre off base if youre throwing out the companies have policies line here. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. You can do anything you want. Most other teams expect to win. 4. Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers.. You are the biggest herd of sheep I have ever seen. Employers generally dont want people with visible tats/excessive piercings interfacing with customersunfortunately some NFL players are pretty much always interfacing with customers because they are famous. Calf Football Tattoos 10. brientomas says: Aug 24, 2011 5:09 AM is. Its simpleIf you want to play in the NFL you have to follow rules. Ronaldo is a great player on and off the pitch and has opted to help humanity. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. Well give you the last word on this one. WebFrom a big, beefy offensive lineman having Mamas Boy tatted on his massive biceps to Jeremy Shockeys nod to the great American bald eagle, the league is littered with tattoos that are questionable at best. You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. Making a tournament bracket template in Microsoft Word If you use Microsoft Word version 2010 to 2013, you can create a tournament bracket template by drawing the text boxes as well as the connecting lines. Tattoo or not. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Is that fair? I can also name several white players in the league with tatoos and piercings. Even Jerry Jones is smarter than that. The difference is you can also go to another restaurant that allows tats and piercings. I didnt realize having tattoos and piercings was unreasonable. WebSome famous people who have a tattoo include Michael Jordan, Paul Stanley (of WWE fame), Sylvester Stallone, and Marilyn Monroe. and not that cool old school. It is really a little on the stupid side. The kids might like it but adults ie people with money were turned off. Here you'll find all collections you've created before. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! Many athletes get tattoos to honor those who have influenced their careers or to represent themselves positively through art. Its that simple. I dont really like JR but it doesnt sound like he told Newton he isnt allowed to get tattoos or piercings, he was just letting him know he would prefer he doesnt. In a recent interview on "The Charlie Rose Show", Jerry Richardson recounted a conversation he had with Cam Newton on April 4 in which he asked Newton if he had any tattoos or piercings. Angry, by Here's hoping he never feels a need to wear long sleeves under his 49ers jersey to cover the tattoos. Its called be an adult and realizing that you dont just get to do whatever you want and not possibly suffer consequences. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. successful business owners in general (not the rule) tend to be type A personalities that think because they are the boss they can control everything. Jerry is old school Plain and simple. ' Richardson told Rose. Am I saying Richardson is a racists? Though Newton cant be disciplined for getting a tattoo or a piercing or multiple of either, Richardson has made his wishes clear and hed likely be unhappy if Newton defies them. He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team. Sounds negotiable to me. Its the voice of reason in an age where the game is getting out of control of the owners. Cam can choose to bag groceries instead of get paid 30 mil to play a game. It would be one thing if he had a hardline policy where he refused to draft any players who had tatts or piercings. But I bet its not always the case with sponsors and advertisers and the business that pay to be affiliated with the team. I believe they both come from religious families. D@amn right he can dictate as he chooses. Richardson is trying to keep Cam Newtons already tainted name from getting anymore questionable. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. If teams want shrink the talent pool they pick from then all the power too them. Please explain to me why it would be so crazy for ownership to enforce something like this. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. Guess again. These players are supposed to be professionals and are paid like they are. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. Employers (particularly those paying you millions) making these type of desires known is totally reasonable. theres a big difference between an owner of a business and the owner of a sports team that alot of you are not mentioning. I wonder if he also told Newton to stay off his lawn. If they are, then hell, I wish I was too. They just want the most talented guys. Its the same deal here. lets review the poll question: Should teams be able to tell players not to get tattoos or piercings? Bottom line is its up to the owner to decide how the team is presented to the fans. Any job like that is going to have image standards and moral terpitude clauses. but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? He hired a latino hc, drafted an african american QB, and steve smith adores him(and he hates everybody). A sign of maturity would be to not get the tats to appease the owner and not really give a crap about it either. It seems to be accepted in industries that dont deal much with the public, except for the carnival. Tattoos and piercings say exactly that. James Harden. This reminds me of the Yankees and their no facial hair except mustaches rule. Jerry, do you care more about winning football games or playing house? Wow the readers on this sight make me sick sometimes. Maybe their owner should focus more on the talent of the product on the field instead of what they look like. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Many business have dress codes and personal conduct codes. . This is pretty standard. tats are so common if he held the rest of the team to that rule he would have a lot of roster spots to fill . On the other hand, if it doesnt interfere with your job function, its not in the bosss interest to lose talented employees because of the personal choices they make. Itd be racist if he said it to all black players which he didnt. And, with that change, youre right. Solid Oak Sketches filed suit on Monday in New York federal court, saying that particular tattoos depicted on players in the recent game NBA2K16 was the company's copyrighted work. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer, - And as a subscriber to that corporate mindset, Jerry Richardson knows this all too well. Its a simple process and then you feel happy because you know you are helping another person. I have no problem with asking players. French international NGolo Kante remains a humble human being despite his recent successes. Sounds like a real bigot. Its his team so he can do so. A policy has to be written and has to apply uniformly to everyone in similar circumstances. Cmon Cam show a pair! I dont see what the big deal is. As we can see, Fitzgerald has no tattoos, which is kind of rare in the NFL. Im a banker. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. ************************************************** i work for a guy that wanted to fire someone because they had an extra-marital affair with someone who wasnt affiliated with the job. The candidate and employer were on the same page. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. Love the fact that Cam doesnt have any, but it is certainly not up to Mr. Richardson to dictate this. Show me one NFL player without any tattoos and I will show you 15 that do. So I guess hed pass on Tom Brady because his hair is too long? Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. Umm I think hes paid to play be the face of the franchise and be a mentor to people..with that being said u can have tattoos and still be that..tattoos dont determine the kind of person you arelet JR frown about it I bet if he does get them and have good yrs doing his rookie contract he will get an new contract regardless..sometimes employees dont see eye to eye with there bosses anyway. he should be allowed to get a BUST tattoo on his forehead. Is that unreasonable? Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? If your company says no tattos or No piercing it is a written policy. Then French young sensation Kylian Mbappe refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. He doesnt care about Shockeys appearance b/c Shockey isnt on sportscenter on a daily basis wearing a panthers jersey. In the NFL a player does not have that choice and therefore should not be forced into an image he does not want. People somehow think it is their constitutional right to take a job somewhere and look and do whatever they want because of freewill.incorrect. If Cam decides to get a piercing or tat, Im sure he will. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. if he doesnt want him to have tqtoos or piercings, he has every right to request that. WebNFL players without Tattoos. put it in a contract with a lot of zeros attached, otherwise shut up! mnfaninaz says: And uh, I am a Raider fan. Ive had jobs before that told me I cant have my hair too long or have any visible tattoos or piercings. ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. Cam Newton Just Checked his map and realized hes in that country called AMERICA. If Im getting paid millions of dollars to be a high profile leader in a company and represent that company publicly? No doubt, now that he has moved to play in the Chinese league, Tattoos are the new mainstream. They want the money too. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. If the owner of a club wants to project an image, and said player wants to continue to work for that owner, then he should do everything possible to work with the owner.